Keeps them out of trouble. MP: What about the other thing that can happen in a fight: brain damage. Policemen pull black people over, hit them across the head and try them unjustly in court. Read more:Muhammad Ali funeral will have worldwide audience of billions. And I said to myself, ‘the champion of the whole world can whoop every man in Russia, every man in America, every man in China, every man in Japan, every man in Europe - every man in the whole world’. MA: I believe in the holy Koran. Mainly he talks about the American white man. Red birds fly wanna be with red birds. And you say to youself, boy, I could have got the train. That we’d see the launching of a coloured satellite. Like how would a Chinese look named Robert Smith? MA: Listen, bluebirds fly with bluebirds. In an age when the demarcation line between sport , showbiz and politics has become blurred, he’s a prime example of a man who is an athlete yet he represents so many other things for so many other people. I don’t do that. Because we were way down as far as I was concerned. But when you’re behind the wheel it’s not like that. How would a German look named Edward Goldberg? And they’re going to prove it at a bar. MP : But without that, even without the dispute about the judging, the fact is that you’re a crowd-puller and Frazier is not. MA: Well, I have a poem. Even Floyd Paterson, who condemned my Islamic religion and didn’t want to call me Muhammad Ali and said I should’ve gone to the army and I should be in jail. MA: Well I wrote about this Africa prison killing the other day. What I’m trying to say is - well, you say that but you’re on a show you gotta say that. And when I heard the truth about my name was not Cassius Clay, like I knew a black man in America named John Hawkins. Where you psyche them out. All the beautiful brown women in America, beautiful sun tans, beautiful shapes, all types of complexions, but she always was white. Repeat that question. Impossible is not a declaration. Selflessness and vulnerability will get people to listen. What did you say? To others he’s a political leader, a figurehead in the battle between black and white. I cannot lose.” In America they got a saying: “the n****r talks too much”. I fear aeroplanes. What you have to do, is take all the fighters you want and me and rank me where you want. I got him real quick. But then I saw all those people coming through the door to see Gorgeous George get beat - and they all paid to get in - that’s the thing - and I said, ‘this is a good idea’. That was my last fight before they took my title in Madison Square Gardens. I don’t have no trouble like that. MP: To lighten it a little but away from the political thing for a while, I saw a picture of you in the paper two days ago cornered by a group of fans, mainly women, in the supermarket. I met him, a Harvard graduate. Our Daily Digest brings Democracy Now! And I heard her tell the manager, and he said, ‘Well, he’s got to go out.’ They put me out. And in Madison Square Gardens 1000 people couldn’t get in, just to watch one man. Something to think about, ain’t it? And I said, I’m not going to be that kind of a fighter. Why’s he so nice to me now? But I was so wrapped up in boxing since I was 12. Impossible is temporary. If you was auctioned off to Mr Smith, your name was Smith. And they let me back on my terms - I didn’t deny nothing I believe. I saw this white man swinging around Africa with a diaper on, hollering. America. Instead of making the audience hear about his plans of retirement, he turned the moment into a teaching moment on the things that truly mattered to him. She said, ‘Listen, you quit saying that, boy.’ I was always curious. I said, ‘Momma, why don’t they call it ‘whitemail’? He is author of the book. MP: What about also being a champion, a thing that I’ve often wondered about, do you get people coming up to you and wanting to take a swing at you? The nose is bleeding, the eyes cut, the teeth is out, and the brain might have a concussion just to please you human beings. I’m invited to all of their homes all over the world and I’m invited to Muslim countries. MP: When you were 12 and in your early teens, did you imagine yourself to be World Champion? They prowl the streets day and night - they shooting, hitting, it’s crazy. And who went to jail? Ali knew how to captivate his global audience through his words and actions both in and out of the ring. “Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam, while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?” Ali said. 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But as soon as I heard the truth that Elijah Muhammad teaches us in America, it made me accept it. People like Tom Jones and Elvis Presley - I’m not nothing like that. Music legend John Legend reads Muhammad Ali’s speech against the Vietnam War in 1966. Gene Tunney was a great. MA: No, I didn’t. We owe Ali for teaching us these very important lessons. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. MA: If I’m attacked, fight like hell. It was the first of four TV interviews he did with the chat show veteran – in 1974, 1975 and 1981 - but the studio chat on October 17, 45 years ago remains the most iconic, as entertaining as it was shocking. The Viet Cong are not all bad. But I think it’s sad that…. I mean, he said he was pretty because people couldn’t touch him. I was always at the gymnasium every day at six o’clock after school. When the flight’s all right and smooth I’m still thinking, ‘what if the engine blow up?’ ‘What if a fool’s got a bomb on it?’. At the time, the television interview was deemed edgy. Not black Muslim. I do more than that in training. Check out our complete guide to FIFA Ultimate Team FUT Champions Weekend League rewards, including updated reward tiers and reward release time. Ali, typically hilarious, feigns snoring and says he is going to 'sleeeeeeep'. I came on after him and he was talking about, ‘I am the prettiest wrestler. You know we’re different. Impossible is nothing.”. But it’s nature to be with your own. MP: Were you in a gang as a kid - were you running with a gang? AMY GOODMAN: We’re going to break, and when we come back, we’ll also be joined by Elizabeth Alexander. Just the idea of me, a humble fella from Kentucky, lucky in sports and now here’s the house and the fight was piped in to places like Thailand in the government house, and Arabian officials took time off just to watch two men boxing. I love my people and I don’t hate nobody and it keeps me out of trouble. MP: But you refused to go and fight in Vietnam, was it because you disagreed with the war in Vietnam or because you disagree with fighting generally? When I’m in the ring I don’t worry about nobody being that good to really hurt me. MA: No. So who is this second class citizen because they do alright? And the first thing they ask me is, ‘why do you call yourselves black Muslims?’. Boxing is a stepping stone just to introduce me to the audience. MP: There’s talk of a rematch with Frazier and anyone who saw the first fight I’m sure they’ll want to see because it was a great fights - one of the best I’ve ever seen. For he can’t start counting til Frazier comes down. So I kept working until I did it. 212 S 14th Street, STE B, Baton Rouge, LA 70802. I want to give him a shot at it. ‘I’m sick and tired I’m getting off this show’. So many people of all races and nationalities. Something they can look forward to - a goal, a purpose to work towards. Mariano was the best slugger - I would say street fighter. MA: Floyd Paterson? I was lucky, from the age of 12 I had boxing talent and was good for my age. Did you all see Tarzan over here? Like when you’re in a car, when someone’s turning corners and you’re kinda on the edge and watching. His latest book, The Complete Muhammad Ali. The key thing to remember about the world’s captivation with Ali is that he truly fought for the world and not himself. Your email address will not be published. MA: They don’t have intelligence, and yet they stay together. Muhammad Ali was a global superstar when he was interviewed by Michael Parkinson in 1971. So I say, did you really believe when I said that? When you say separation, what you’re saying is that black people must do something for themselves and not always beg white people to move in to their neighbourhoods. MP: I do understand. But, you know, Muhammad Ali did sort of play footsies with dictators like Mobutu, Marcos. We rely on contributions from our viewers and listeners to do our work. Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay), the deposed world heavyweight boxing champion, told an anti-war rally at the University of Chicago on May 11, 1967 that there is … Can I ask you when you were first aware, when you were a child, of the differences between black and white? MP: Tonight my guest is an extraordinary man. But usually ‘m on the spot with my predictions and some people really gamble and bet money on the rounds I say.